Last Tuesday July 22nd, 2008 we ‘witnessed’ The Prime Minister Minion securing 19 more AYES than Nays by hook or not so discreetly by CROOK to save his cabinet through not so passively support and/or participation of hand in glove MSM! Cabinet! As aptly defined by Sandeep, “boss-woman, her spoilt brat, and the entire gang of charlatans, cowards, crooks, defaulters, frauds, goons, hooligans, murderers, rapists, thieves, and thugs that go by the collective noun of Cabinet…”. Any doubt any body?
Operation ‘Poaching’ was conducted with not so ‘credulous’ support of a ‘fixer and erstwhile venom spewing enemy- now ally’. Was this man really ‘blackmailed’ when visited by the National Security Advisor to PM? After all news were, that Bhim Singh of Panthers Party in Jammu too was advised to vote for Azad Govt in J & K by the same NSA! Is it not a fact that MKN visited HIM and his Neta Ji’s Brother ‘ostensibly’ (huh!) to brief them about Indo US Nuclear No Clear DEAL? BarabarIndian dug some thing out for your ‘voyeuristic pleasure’.
Then…
Bangalore was bruised badly on Friday. No wonder @ and around ‘Communally Sensitive’ – GOD or MSM only know what it means by ‘Communally Sensitive’? If they mean Muslim Dominated areas, then DO tell us babu that both MSM and the Immoral Govt. think so- areas or/and around hub of IT activity!
Then Ahemedabad….
70 people dead, count less injured, hundreds maimed for ever and ONCE AGAIN A MUNDANE DRAMA!
Now Surat (Gujarat), it seems rained bombs last few hours!
Angry, yes I am and rightly so. Nevertheless, I do not let ‘some political correctness’ or so as I am accused often for ‘my pathological hatred towards Congress’ blind me of my vision and cloud my reasoning.
Since morning this day I have been joining issues with some of my ‘well meaning’ friends like Chindu and Offstumped, over what Sushama Swaraj said and meant.
This your truly has never shied away from calling ‘spade a spade’. What Sushma Swaraj is said is best reflected in this comment at BarabarIndian’s post.
“these are certainly no ordinary times when a high court judge has to say ‘illegal bangladeshis are the kingmakers in assam‘.
http://www.hindu.com/2008/07/29/stories/2008072960591400.htm
the other two blogs you pointed out criticizing sushma – these guys wonder why is it that the Hindus are always at the receiving end. and they valiantly speak of standing up and fighting. but when one lady shows the courage to do that, they chicken out and get all nice. remind me the next time i see something about standing up, fighting etc.”
Do I believe in ‘conspiracy theories’ or not is immaterial, what I know for fact is this… as posted at Chindu.
“I am surprised at over-reaction!
What Sushma has said can not be ‘discounted’ summarily, especially looking at the prevailing circumstances which are ’shrouded in mystery’.
I am not sure about how much you know about the happenings in Punjab in late 80s! The ‘rise and fall’ of Jarnail Singh Bhinderwala, Operation Blue star, Indira’s assassination followed up by the ‘GENOCIDE’ of Sikhs.
I am not sure, xx and xxxx, how much you know or tried to find out about the ‘convenient timings’ of Communal flare ups in UP and Bihar…circa 70s and 80s, just right ahead of general election, damning RSS for that and ‘HARVESTING’ secular votes!
I know all this. Period.
Therefore, I am not foreclosing the option/theory as Sushma ‘fears’.
Sushma is a senior leader and know what she is talking about, equally sure she is and know what she means.
If your not so controlled ‘indignation’ @ Sushma for not being ‘Politically Correct’, is a step forward to gain entry in to ‘Secular’ club(!) 
– This of course, I DO NOT KNOW. ”
Prudent Indian.
They want any leader to think twice before s/he opens mouth against the UPA and Congress. They are frustrated that opposition are discussing and bringing into open the corruption and the extreme manoeuvres that the UPA did in order to survive.
I have never seen such a shameless government sticking to the chair…
They are targeting all the BJP states now. Today 18 bombs were diffused in Surat and 3 in Rajasthan. Never before the government at the centre has been such a meek spectator. I am ashamed of them. Everyone worth his gut should resign from the parliament at this sorry state of affairs… Even a school going kid can run the Govt like these are acting to run…
PI,
Over a period of time, I’ve read your posts and do respect your analysis and opinions. Chindu has never shied away from supporting Hindus when they were fighting for the right cause. However this case you have detailed out, does not have the facts supporting it.
The analysis starts of bashing Amar Singh detailing how he conspired with the UPA to get the required votes, not to mention his ‘extra-curricular’ activities with film stars. All this is irrelevant mostly as its politics, whether alliances are formed before the elections or after, suitcases get exchanged.
Personal issues like dalliances with film stars again is Page 3 information, salacious yes, but again irrelevant to the bombings.
Now the article about the judge’s statement about the growing influence of illegal Bangaldeshis in Assam, this is a problem with immigration and policing of our borders, is there any credible evidence with the bombings. At present not enough. I’m not sweeping the problem under the rug, just removing the noise from clouding the main issues.
Let us count the numbers now,
UPA rule – 600+ in 4 years
NDA – 237 in 5 years
UPA (adding J&K, northeast, maoists ) 15000
(Facts from The Pioneer -http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnist1.asp?main_variable=Columnist&file_name=kanchan%2Fkanchan189.txt&writer=kanchan)
Why did I bring out these numbers? The fact remains that the UPA government is highly inefficient in dealing with terrorism and should be charged with negligence in protecting its citizens. There is a need to define new processes to handle terrorism and punish terrorists.
However based on current information, evidence from information gathered there is little to suggest linking the terrorist acts with the UPA governments charges.
I’m not condemning Sushma Swaraj’s statements. Let me repeat that, I’m not condemning Sushma Swaraj’s statements. But I’m saying that its irresponsible to shoot her mouth without evidence.
Here’s her statement,
“Attacks in two BJP-ruled states in a span of two days and within four days of the UPA government winning the confidence vote have some meaning and what I am saying is proved by enough circumstantial evidence.”
Where is the evidence? Is it too close to be a coincidence? Yes. But where’s the evidence?
Then she goes on to state,
“She said the absence of an anti-terror law like the Prevention of Terrorism Act was the prime reason for the increased terrorist activities in the country.”
I agree POTA or TADA or yada yada will help. But if a national level leader does not understand the problem and outline reasonable solutions, it really does not help solve the problem. Again as the old saying goes, wise enemy better than foolish friend.
Dear DD,
Thanks for some kind words.
DD, yes there are no material evidence to suggest / indicate complicity of ANY ONE not even the Jihadis, investigations are on and am afraid will end to where all others have reached so far, that is back to where they started?
That is what I lament. All this is Mundane Routine.
Now as far as what Sushma said or meant. Well, I am only urging as did barabarIndian too and some many others as well, that why should we not look at recent bombings from this angel?
Any efficient investigator would look at the things from many different angels and shall ‘eliminate’ probabilities if and when facts do not substantiate that. If the Investigator completely rules out one particular angel before even probe is started, he might end up with wrong conclusions.
There are some suspects in each case. Each suspect is ‘suspected’ for
1. Suspect gets any benefit (financial, political, personal, sexual, ideological or any other) and that is Motive for committing crime.
2. Suspect is suspected to have provided any sort of assistance, motivation, encouragement or even passive support.
3. Past record.
4. Circumstances.
If only, when investigations prove that a particular suspect comes clean on all the above parameters, then only he is exonerated.
Case in point is the Aarushi and Hemraj (Noida double murder). Just as the investigators completely ignored an angel and spent all their energies in proving what they ‘felt was the case’, they neither could gather any evidence nor could prove the ‘suspect- they thought) guilty. Resulting, egg all over their face.
Now revisit the statement Sushama made. But let me clear, Sushama might have thrown a hint but where did she name UPA or govt? Yes, technically speaking, when did she name UPA or Govt?
MOTIVE: Now, she has explained what she thinks could be the motive. 1. To distract attention from Amoral Victory and 2. As she says, to win back Muslims, in case they feel offended by Indo Us Nuclear Deal.
Circumstances: Well, the same as she said. Trust vote and two BJP ruled states bombed!
Past Record: If you go by the past record of Congress governments, you won’t doubt her.
Now Usual Suspects: We both are not so politically innocent to ignore the ‘political mechanizations’ of past one fortnight or so! Neither my fellow Prudent Indians are so naïve.
Where is the evidence?
Investigate from this perspective; you might be in for some Nasty surprises.
The old cliché “All are innocent till proven guilty” does not mean any thing, in case you REALLY want to fight terrorism. “All and every one is a suspect – applying the scale as above, till proven otherwise”.
Regards,
Prudent Indian.
Ps:
I strongly condemn quoting figures by either party to make a claim or countering that. For me all were living Human Beings, every single one of them. Please, every single one who died in these blasts has a name, a family, and some many loving ones, left behind. Each life lost is a loss to so many people, this loss just can not be ‘computed’ on excel sheets .
Someone like Sushma Swaraj is very much needed to put pressure on the government. Her argument is logical, may not be proved, but it is very ‘effective’ in pinching the ruling Congress/UPA where it pains most.
And that is a very good political move… I apprecite her for that. Make them rage in anger and they will do more mistakes. That is the way advoctes bring out the truth from the culprits…keep hitting them from diverse angles, one day they will go on justifying their crime, and then you het the cake! to eat!
PI,
The facts you presented with the Arushi murder case clearly point out how following due process blindly leads the case on the wrong path. However what I’m saying here is, the nexus between the UPA and the terrorists is flimsy at best.
Even the points about the coincidence of timing is flimsy at best. Is it possible? sure. Does the UPA gain from these incidents? absolutely. A communal riot would probably be the best thing that could happen for them.
Problem is Congress is pretty good at corruption, negligence and general inefficiency. Calling the SIMI hotline and placing an order for an attack is something which needs more evidence. For example, after 9/11 there were a bunch of conspiracy theorists who came up with this theory about US Govt. involvement and came up with a video:
http://www.loosechange911.com/blog/
Check it out, interesting watch. But point is its circumstantial evidence and lot of valid sources point out logical flaws in their concept.
Now if Sushma Swaraj wants to play a political gambit by forcing the UPA on its toes, then she better be careful as gambits like these when not played correctly comes back to bite those who do play them.
Besides creating incidents like these ensures that the Govt. looks inefficient in terms of National Security and provides an opportunity for the voters to choose the opposition parties, doesn’t look like a real smart ploy for the UPA.
Now if some leader were to get “bumped off” by these chumps that will get some sympathy votes, but even then the last time it happened it did not give the Congress a majority.
Thanks.
PS: Quoting numbers does not disrespect the victims of the terrorist attacks. Forgetting them and not raising the importance of getting the criminals to justice and not preventing future attacks is really disrespecting them and their families. People need to know the facts.
ummm!
I suppose DD has merit in his argument.
by the way the arguments between you and DD are rather more interesting than post.
keep it up guys
heheheheheheh
KIRTI
check this timeline out…
1 cash for votes scam in parliament
2inquiry set up, sp leaders front and center
bomb blasts
3 sushma swaraj points that the timing of the blasts soon after the cash for votes scam was strange, was a politician involved
4 sushma swaraj ridiculed
5 more bomb blasts
6 more deaths more blasts
7 accussed in delhi blasts caught
8 one accussed is son of sp leader
is this coincidence… or is there more to it.
i wonder what is going through sushma swaraj’s mind right now… vindication!
http://timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=16387
congress and sp in powere right now with a lot more allies