Once again the ‘Peaceful’ followers of the ‘Religion of Peace’ brought the ‘Secular’ government of India to its knees, simply because some land at the height of 13,500 ft was granted to a board managing the ‘Communal Hindu’ shrine in order to provide some basic amenities like clean toilets and ‘relatively’ more comfortable place to stay for a night during the course of their ‘torturous’ journey to the place they hold sacred and back from there.
- Hindus hold Amarnath Cave as sacred to them and ONCE in a year many Hindus undertake a Pilgrimage journey on foot through very difficult terrain to the Holy Shrine.
- Yatra is for the period of one month only. As the place remains under thick cover of snow for more than 10 months of the year thus inaccessible and practically impossible for anyone to live there.
- Since, the journey is long and taxing, shrine board and many Voluntary Hindu Organizations make some make shift arrangements for the lodging of pilgrims. Through out the course of pilgrimage these very VHOs take care of food too, through community kitchens.
- As the weather conditions more frequently than not get worse – many causalities have been reported, frequently. Further unclean and unhygienic drinking water and toilet facilities make the matter worst and are Environment unfriendly too.
Considering all above some land was allotted to the Board Managing the ‘Holy Shrine’ to erect temporary but more ‘Safe Night Stay Camps’ and hygienic toilets.
But then? Whole valley was on fire.
This is despite the fact…
- That Muslims are subsidized ‘TWICE’ a year for the HAJ at the cost of Indian Tax Payers!
- They protest despite the fact that every state has some HAJ MANZIL or another for their stay!
- They protest despite the fact that State owned Air Lines provide special flights from various Indian Cities to Saudi Arabia and back!
WHY? Because of petty and highly opportunistic politicians like the Father Daughter duo of Mufti and Mahboba saw an opportunity to consolidate their electoral base among the ‘Separatist and Pro Pakistani’ elements of Kashmir Valley when elections are just three months away. This Mufti is the same man who as Home Minister had freed three or five Terrorists as ransom for the kidnapped (some people allege it was staged for the purpose, any way I go by official version i.e. KIDNAPPED). Pakistan supporting; fed by Secular Indian Government; Made ‘HEROS’ by our Sec-Soc Main Stream Media- ‘Serpentines’ like Huryiaat too jumped in and soon other follows the race against the allotment of land.
‘Peaceful’ as they are (UH!) soon were out on streets and kept the valley burning for eight days.
BUT what are to objecting to? After all it is temporary for a month or two maximum! Neither the place is suitable for any one to stay there due to hostile weather conditions for the best part of year. Environmental worries or deforestation or any other logic argument advanced is Hippocratic and untenable excuses. Read this “FIRE IN THE SNOW” Ashok Malik has exposed the hypocrisy of these Pakistan Sympathizers masquerading as leaders.
The reason for their protest is “Mufti’s men and the incendiary Hurriyat leaders charged that a new township — “Amarnath Nagar” — was being built, that the pre-fab shelters were actually permanent structures and that a demographic conquest of Kashmir by “outsiders” and “Hindus” was underway. It would allegedly change the “essentially Muslim character of Kashmir“.
Oh! So main reason for the valley on fire is that they are opposed to the land transfer to Shrine Board because it is ‘Hindu’ and they want to keep intact Muslim Majoritarianism. YES! How can they allow some Hindus after so painstakingly Hindu Pundits were ‘Ethnically Cleansed’ and rest who managed to survive; fled from Kashmir to save their lives!
This reminds me of an excellent study (I read here) about the % of Muslim Majority in different States world over and the Muslim Behavior pattern. The same hold true in Indian context too. Since I do not have the figures of respective state wise population of India I request and trust my good friend Yossarin to kindly put it in ‘Indian Perspective’.
PI.
A must read.
What Islam Isn’t
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
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At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
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From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
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When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4% Read the above, how true it is in Indian context.*
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
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After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
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At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
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From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
Ethnic cleansing of Kashmir Pundits.*
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After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
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100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris,
‘The Haj’
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
* Remarks by PI.



Nice write up……All Indians(including Muslims) need to read this…..
I think % of some countries esp. UK are wrong.
In Swizz, a meagre 2% people(99% of them given refuge in Swizz or Asylum winners due to various pblms in their islamic countries.) have recently protested to the swiss white cross flag. wtf
Scary…
This is happening because we have been divided and impotent, against the ASURIC SICKULARS, (the 1% corrupt inhuman tie wearing animals). Why don’t we fight fire with fire
muslims wants development of facilities under govt patronage not under bhangedi greedy sex maniac pujaris.in nankana saheb pakistan they have converted this sleepy municipality into vibrant five star city with mall&hotels etc.
PI – Sachar Report has all the details you seek.
http://minorityaffairs.gov.in/newsite/sachar/sachar_comm.pdf
Hi, these are happen some times
hi,..
well, again a nice topic and good points..but i wud say two things…
1. Its all politics.. and yes local people do get involved coz they act with emotions…and practical or political people use thm…
who is the head of the shrine board??? so its not an independant body…:).. political parties will use evrything to get in power.
2.Forest land is being given to thm ..the is not good/fair..and board says its paying the amount..as per law forest land no matter wut ..cud be used. once u give thm land this year there will be camps nxt year nxt government will make something else out of it….
Hey Kathmulla AHMAD,
JUST GO AND F*** YOUR A** TO CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ADDICTED TERRORIST MULLAHS IN PAKISTAN WHOSE S*** YOU LICK WHILE EATING, BREATHING AND FUCKING YOUR 4 WIVES IN INDIA. Hindu Pujaris need no Character certificates from KATHMULLAHS AND TERRORSITS CHILD KILLERS LIKE YOU BLOWING AWAY INNOCENT PEOPLE BY BOMBS BECAUSE DARE NOT FIGHT IN OPEN
As for development under Govt. IT IS OUR TAX MONEY AND YOUR BLOODY TAX MONEY. You beggerS in fact want Bheekh in form of HAJJ SUBSIDY to the desert. AND OFFCOURSE YOUR TERRORSIT KATHMULLAHS HAVE ALREADY DIVIDED OUR INDIA, AND NOT A SINGLE INCH OF LAND WOULD BE DIVIDED NOW. IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS IN INDIA, YOU AR WELCOME TO LEAVE TO YOUR “DARUL ISLAM” IN THE DESERT, WITH HOORS AND DAARU KE CHASHME.
AND ALL THE BLOODY HAJJ HOUSES SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY AS IS HAJJ SUBSIDY TO TERRORISTS, BECAUSE ALL THE OIL TO DESERT CREATES ENVIORNMENTAL PROBLEMS WITH GREENHOUSE EMISSIONS, DESTROY THE PEACE OF CITIES WHERE THE “HAJJI TERRORISTS” ENCAMP, IN ADDITION TO BLOWING OUR HINDUS TAX MONEY. AS FOR KASHMIR GOING TO PAKISTAN FORGET YOUR WET DREAMS. THE DAY INDIA ARMY IS UNLEASHED. IT WOULD BE A 2: 1 RATIO
PI DO NOT DELETE MY POST IF YOU ARE NOT A SICKULAR
Great post P.I.
You and your readers will find this post interesting:
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/07/07/lies-about-amarnath/
and also:
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/06/28/kashmir-demographics/
lets get united and f*** these TERRORIST MULLAHS .The biggest draw back we hindu have we enjoy when others house burns and cry when ours burns , we are not united .LETS UNITE AND FIGHT
PI, that’s interesting analysis by IBB. Also your Amarnath case is lot more enlightening then news reports….
[...] Government does not take it any more than just a ‘Collateral Damage’ in their fight against the ‘Majority Communalism’! Such a group of ‘secular perverts’ this Government is, that two Senior Cabinet [...]
I came to know that the land allotment was not even done. A permission was only passed and the Board had not even request for the transfer of the land. The way things spread out of hand, made us realise the low ‘control’ of governance and state muscle power in the J&K.
If governments can be brought down with this ease, life would be hell.
Your post consisted of many other facts on Islam. Pseudo secular like me won’t read them
Will read and understand some other day. See, it is 1:18 am now
Kidding…
I came back to read the analysis – as I can’t run away from facts by selectively ignoring some. And what an analysis it is! If I will remember this blog, I will remember this post of yours most prominently….
When the analysis says: “100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim” and it is not a fact, I know the reason. One factor which is ignored is the factions within the Muslims – In Lucknow we can find the two groups fighting on the streets – it is very regular and at slight provocations. This is sad. It points out that even if the ‘goal’ is fulfilled, they won’t stop from violence – that is something which is sad.
I think we have to make another study – see how modernisation affects the behaviour of the followers. Or how western education affects behaviour patterns.
Thanks a lot PI for sharing this analysis here…
Regards,
Please read the analysis ‘Amarnath vs Haj’ at
http://rameshnaidoo.blogspot.com/2008/07/amarnath-vs-haj.html
Best
Ramesh Naidoo
Amarnath vs Haj
The unfortunate events in Jammu & Kashmir regarding the transfer of land by the government to Shri Amarnath Shrine Board call for each one’s urgent attention and involvement.
What began as a simple effort to facilitate Amarnath pilgrims has suddenly developed communal and political overtones. This is appalling when compared to the facilities offered to the Haj and the Vaishno Devi pilgrims.
In an attempt to bring this to the attention of every responsible citizen of India, we would like you to have the benefit of some facts stated below.
In keeping with public policy statements, the Government of India makes elaborate arrangements for the welfare of Haj pilgrims and strives to improve the facilities provided to them every year. That is how it should be. The Government of India, and the ministry of external affairs in particular, deserves credit for providing perhaps the best arrangements that any government makes for their Haj pilgrims.
For eg: As reported in a newspaper article, here are the facts about the facilities provided to Haj pilgrims.
1. To begin with, the government provides an airfare subsidy to about 100,000 pilgrims selected by the Haj Committee of India who go for Haj annually. Pilgrims pay only Rs 12,000 for their air travel. This figure has remained unchanged for at least a decade or more. According to official figures, this subsidy was Rs 280 crores in 2006, or about Rs 28,000 per pilgrim. Today, with rising fuel prices, this figure would have gone up to Rs 350-400 crore. There is also a seperate Haj Terminal at Delhi International Airport.
2. There is a separate Haj cell in the ministry of external affairs. The Haj Committee of India has its own premises in Mumbai. Similarly the State Haj Committees have their own premises in various other Indian cities. These facilities have been built on land provided by the state governments.
3. Accommodation in Mecca and Medina is decided keeping in mind the need to provide maximum convenience and comfort to the pilgrims. Typically, all accommodation has lifts, telephones, running water, electricity and telephone at the minimum. There is total computerisation of pilgrim location and movement.
4. For Haj 2007, a contingent of 115 doctors (including 63 specialists with post-graduate degrees) and 141 nurses and other para-medical staff, 3 coordinators, 46 assistant Haj officers, 165 Haj assistants and 186 Khadimul Hujjaj were sent from India on short-term deputation to Saudi Arabia. Special attention is given to medical facilities for the pilgrims.
5. Some of the facilities provided by the government are: arrangements for polio, meningitis and influenza vaccinations for pilgrims before departure; a 75-bed hospital and 12 branch offices-cum-dispensaries in Mecca; a 15-bed hospital and 6 branch offices-cum-dispensaries in Medina; three medical teams at Jeddah airport to provide medical care round the clock to Haj pilgrims; 17 ambulances in Mecca and Medina; supply of medicines, medical supplies and critical medical equipment from India. All this adds up to the total money spent by the government to facilitate a hassle-free Haj pilgrimage each year for tens of thousands of Muslims from India.
What is due to one community by logic and fair practice is due to another. And yet in a discriminatory treatment lakhs of pilgrims who have been going to Amarnath for years have been denied basic human facilities. The question is what took them so long to consider these facilities and not whether or not they should be provided.
There isn’t any adequate medical and sanitary facilities for the pilgrims of Amarnath Shrine. As the agitation continues, it has been reported that a water bottle costing Rs 14 was sold at Rs 70. And a khacchar or a pony that took pilgrims at the cost of Rs 1,500 charged an abominable Rs 10,000. Compare this with the subsidies for Haj Pilgrims. Buses of pilgrims were also stoned by unruly elements.
The whole agitation was started by the Peoples Democratic Party on the absurd presumption that providing these basic facilities to the travelling pilgrims will result in a changed “eco-cultural character” of the state. Does this imply that Kashmir only has a “Muslim” character?
Kashmir originally and lawfully belongs to both Hindus and Muslims. Nevertheless, 4,00,000 Kashmiri Pandits were driven out of Kashmir and are living as refugees and now even the very thought of Hindus settling in Kashmir is creating such violent repercussions. Is this a sign of a secular, healthy, fair society?
Even if we were to presume that it has a Muslim character, how can travelling pilgrims possibly change eco-cultural character of a place. Can there be a likelihood of someone settling down at the height of 13,500 ft? There can not be any possibility of Hindus settling down in the proposed land.
It is ironical that though the Hindus are being denied basic hospitable facilities to enable their pilgrimage, the temporary, pre-fabricated shelters built by the Amarnath Shrine Board were dismantled and sent for emergency relief operations during the earthquake in Kashmir in October 2005. “About 60-70 pre-fab shelters were sent to Uri and Tangdhar, where they housed thousands,” a senior Government official is reported to have said. “The Amarnath Board also sent pre-fab toilets. There was no objection from any political party at that point.”
For centuries pilgrims have been making the arduous trip to Amarnath cave without any benefit from the state. They have to depend to private philanthropy for food, accommodation and other facilities. It is shameful that people have lived in torn taurpaulin tents. But a caring State in independent India can and should do more.
View online exhibition on exodus and selective killings of 4,00,000 Kashmiri Pandits from Kashmir at http://refugees-in-their-own-country.blogspot.com/.
Well hats off to all the Jammuites for not giving up when the whole of India was adamant on ignoring them most of them the media …..
they have kept the issue alive and now i can see fear in the eyes of sickulars like farooq abdullah …. u know what he now says …. “please do not communalize this issue by taking this to all over India” …..
the only thing he is afraid of is …. that the whole of India will see the reversal of the land which is the size of a footbal field and meant for TEMPORARY SHELTERS FOR PILGIRMS as an insult of the hindus in India who fund the hajis with their blood earned money ….
let me tell all the people in the valley who are playin with this situation … once the hindus in this country have had enough of all this …. first the article 370 will go and then all those who oppose will either see all that happens from BELOW (we all know where they all will end up once they are dead, these cowards who kill children and women and plant bombs in hospitals) …. or they will end up in their dar ul whatever aka pakistan … everybody knows how lovely life in that country is …. where they are still treated as second class citizens and called as muhajirs …. shameful for anyone who wants to do anything with that country ….
this UPA government is gettin dangerously close to the chinese and ignoring the signs that are being sent by pakistany army of its intentions …. there is somthing that is brewing under the civilian government which i am not sure about and frankly i wont trust the pakistany government for a penny … it has no power on the army or isi … India has to guard itself at all times … there should be the harshest punishment for anyone who is caught even talkin to anyone who has to do anythin with the terrorists … with no leniency whatever … we need POTA back as soon as possible … these people have become bold in their attacks becoz of its repealing …
lets vote BJP to power this time…. and there is a stern warning to this party …. do not behave like u did the last time …. with ur president caught taking BRIBE … with jaswant singh takin terrorists to afganistan …. put in your best for 5 years …. then lets see how you are not voted back ….
for now we all have to start a campaign to get BJP to power with the maximum seats …. so that small parties cannot bully … with their regionalism( which is the worst enemy of India in the coming decade ) … its a shame for raj thackery …. he should have his face painted black and walked on a donkey on the streets of Mumbai …. and as a lesson told to make sure that WE SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING AMONGST OURSELVES ….Mumbai is a land of dreams … its not his …. or bal thackerys even … its India’s diamond …. its a shame these people go to such dirty levels to get some votes …. got fight the terrorists raj …. go fight the pakistanis …. go get dawood … not biharis … u may not like them …. but they are hard working if a lil naive at times … u can say u dont like them but not create attacks on such people U ARE A DISGRACE TO THE GREAT STATE OF MAHARASHTRA AND THE MARATHA people …
DO YOU BELONG TO THE SAME GREAT MARATHAS WHO FOUGHT THE BRITISH AND WERE THE FIRST FOR THE STRUGGLE OF INDEPENDENCE WITH THE SAME PEOPLE OF UP AND BIHARI MARTYRS ??
there are a lot of questions for this country …. it is still very young as independent … i have nothing against the good muslims …. they need to rise against the bad elements in their fold …. there is place in this country for all of us ….
LIVE AND LET LIVE ….
Jai Shree Ram, I request all hindu, plz must reject the land return 2 the muslims in Kashmir, presently every hindu is unsecure. why? we r just responsible that bcz we don’t care everythig. all the leaders just going 2 muslims why? only 4 vote bank or something else? so i hope we must awake n do sepecial something ………………………..
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“Sagarika Ghose’s assertion that the BJP’s urban space “will melt faster than the holy lingam at Amarnath”
our holy lingam does not erect at slightest provocation/stimulation ( we are sanatan dharma had been here always and will always be there unlike some lunitic so csalled religion of peace) but once erected/stimulated, it does not come back without doing real ‘business’. Let her (sagirika GHOST) be reminded of that.
Hindus ‘patience’ is legendary @ times taken as cowardly too but when Hindu gets awakened he/she cares nothing than to uproot the evil.
Jammu has risen and shall fight till finish.
Prudent Indian supports us and any body who support us in our fight to finish is equally welcome.
Good work PI thanks we mean business this time.
Jai bharat
Vande matrram.